Why should it be any different in the military. Additionally, allowing airmen to wear sister-service patches in their current color configuration influences cohesiveness and pride while assigned to joint organizations.. They can finish their education while SERVING THEIR COUNTRY! If you know youre right, the regulations will it may not seem like it but they will protect you. What irks me is they let transgendered in the military period. Now, that approval authority has been bumped to the general court-martial convening authority level, otherwise known as the lowest-ranking general officer responsible for the soldiers command. INCLUDING HI RISK PEDIATRIC FC AND NEONATAL NURSERY MILITARY.NET is a privately owned website and is NOT AFFILIATED (or endorsed)with the U.S. GOVERNMENT, U.S. ARMED FORCES, or DEPARTMENT OF VETERANS AFFAIRS. It's been many decades since I was in school, and the kids back then were at least creative about it. All rights reserved. That killed the live and chiggers, Angel. People should stop worrying about others. They ought to make soldiers have long hair, and wear olive drab bandanas, and ride bicycles on the battlefield. ( cane, wheelchair ?? I would have gotten back to you sooner but this area has been without power since Wednesday due to storms. Im still a VETERAN that served my Country.that got the SHAFT!! I bet Amy would look good in a mink, flugo. Jacob DiPietro filed an official request to grow a beard, arguing that shaving is against his personal religious beliefs. We, as Heathens, have no such religious requirement with regards to hair.. pocket mirror tacked to a tree. The cookie is set by the GDPR Cookie Consent plugin and is used to store whether or not user has consented to the use of cookies. If youre trying to fleece the system because you just dont want to shave, or you just want to grow your hair out, he says, its not gonna work.. After Canadas recent acceptance of facial hair in the military, it seems only fair that the United States would do the same. :D. My response was to the article saying there are already men in the military who are allowed facial hair. We use cookies on our website to give you the most relevant experience by remembering your preferences and repeat visits. Two recent cases one which was approved and one that was disapproved show how each case is unique. It's very distracting and uncomfortable. beard getting caught up in their machine gun? Hi Im a 30 year veteran can my wife file for hearing aids threw the va thanks htcm, Its about time our Air Force Family be freed from the Adolf Hitler style mustache grooming practice. If you need a longer mustache or Beard to build your moral so you can feel better about your sissy self then you have more problems than your prissy hair will fix. If you have a problem with that, then move to a country, where you can have better benefits and freedom. Sikhs dont cut their hair and beards out of respect for the God-given form. THEN ENJOY YOUR GAY BUDDIES AND DIE TOGETHER YOUR ARE ONE OF THE REASONS THEY LET GAYS BACK IN THE SERVICE. Official Statement Re: Religious Beard Accommodations in the US Military. Chaplains cannot officially approve or deny requests, but recommendations based on perceived sincerity can be made on the service members behalf. I bet all the men who were written about in the Bible had beards. Or should I say a sight for sore eyes. Some people here really seem confused, and equate being in the military to any other "Job". DiPietro said his request was kicked back down to him from the battalion level because it hadnt been formatted correctly. Beards don't grow over our eyes, and we don't comb them up on our faces. POLL: Is the VA Doing a Good Job Taking Care of Vets? Why the military doesn't just go with those, I don't know. Conservative Christians arent the only ones asking for accommodation in mailman case, White House appoints new Muslim community liaison, Secular organizers say interfaith spaces should include atheists, nonbelievers, US soccer leagues add game breaks for players fasting during Ramadan, Prayer rug design project aims to highlight Islams diversity in US and Latin America, Copyright 2020, Religion News Service. are you still in grade school? Di Liscia had been granted a no-shave chit in 2018 as a morale measure. If there is a wounded soldier on the battlefield, it takes at least two soldiers to get him to safety and treat him. I loathe nothing more then self sold slaves acting as if that action should entitle them to some greater status in society. This time I'll probably let it keep growing for the rest of my life. I respect it of course that they have the right but I understand that the practice belongs to the Jewish religion. | Photo courtesy of Sikh Americans Veterans Alliance. Now they both work at a hospital at a USAF base in this country, him as a civilian, since he's retired. The U.S. Army has reportedly acquiesced to the power of Thor, granting a soldier permission to grow a beard in keeping with his Norse pagan faith. Gen. and in my view beards and mustaches are not military, not Sgt. Mandatory SHARP training must be conducted face-to-face using Army Training Network materials and with the help of a credentialed SHARP expert. Would you please loan me 3600 dollors so I can get my wife home I have no credit so could some one help me please 2nd. A new mustache policy has arrived for airmen. He is retired, already done his time, he earned the right to his uniform. The Army Times has since reported that a soldier at Fort Leonard Wood in Missouri was granted permission to grow a beard in accordance with heathenry. Although the Air Force has relaxed their mustache policy, beards are still off limits for airmen. They might even call it the cavalry. If youre trying to fleece the system because you just dont want to shave, or you just want to grow your hair out, Im telling you now: Its not gonna work.. For years, DiPietro followed the Army standard. For Di Liscia, a practicing Hasidic Jew who had not shaved for more than two years, it was a choice between his loyalty to the U.S. Navy and his religious faith. Grab a book or poster board and instead of gripping do something for someone other then your self and try and be an inspiration or a light or a be on and do good for this globe. It used to be honor and resect, proud to wear the uniform. Then there's the avoidance of wine and grapes and the cleanliness/atonement rituals. Why the Bible Could Get Banned in Utah Schools, Church Claims Prayer Regrew Woman's Amputated Toes, Is There an Anti-Trans Holy War Brewing? Would do it all over again. Furthermore, the arbitrary and capricious forms of creating conformance, even to how one manages their hair, is outdated and doesnt focus on what really matters in public service: performance,he said. That went on for months. From left, A02 Joe Probasco, LTC Kamal S. Kalsi and A02 Guldeep Kaur stand for a photo near the World War II memorial in Washington D.C. LTC Kalsi is the first Sikh American soldier to have been given a uniform accomodation allowing a beard and dastar - both observed as requirements for Sikh followers. like not being able to see or even fit a gas mask or other military required eqiptment? When I tried to use my Educational benefits, I was DISAPROVED!!!!! Speak to the Israelites and say to them: If a man or woman wants to make a special vow, a vow of dedication to the Lord as a Nazirite During the entire period of their Nazirite vow, no razor may be used on their head. Your a part time Woke Salior. I served during the Zumwalt days and had a neat, military-style beard as a Navy Airborne Electronic Warfare Officer. At that level, that particular officer will have in-house access to experienced chaplains and Army attorneys to consult on the decision. Necessary cookies are absolutely essential for the website to function properly. Here, a coalition service member maintains security during a patrol with. Certain exceptions are made however for those with medical waivers or religion exemptions. Women service members should have had relaxed hair styles long ago. for many years. The chaplain corps will work with any military member to aid them in a genuine pursuit of an accommodation, Joint Force State Chaplain Maj. Donald Crandell said. Gaitan notes that growing a beard is a constant reminder of our faith and who we are as Muslims (The Prophet Muhammad was said to have a beard, and it has come to signify a closeness with Allah). . I just felt utterly compelled that this is what I was being called to do., By Also, please learn to spell, punctuate, and use proper grammatical structure. Commanders will incorporate everything into their unit training plans and use assessments to keep track of risk areas, though when, where and how training is done is up to them. The Becket Fund says a decision is not likely until next year for the four sailors seeking religious accommodation. But for the soldiers who dont have a religious reason to apply for an exemption but are thinking about doing so anyway just because they dont want to shave of which DiPietro said hes heard from several dont even think about it. Thank you for the compliment and the smile this morning. nothing any longer. Did cross boarder operations in Cambodia. My husband ,David l. Allen, was a 100% disabled veteran. Hopefully, someday, we will see the acceptance of beards in the military. So they either accept the fact that hair buns and beards (with a religious exemption) can be worn but they will not be deployed and if you cant be deployed then you are of no use to the Military and out you go. Weve been receiving requests for religions beard accommodations for soldiers serving in the Armed Forces. I see it as a phase very similar to when the Army authorized the wear of black socks during the fitness test. RELATED: Sikh American soldiers continue to campaign for right to wear beard, turban. The changes are written in red and the original policy in black. You must be related to cousin It, Angel. Every transfer of duty station would start a whole thing about when he rotates again and when he was eligible for retirement. 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He said maybe, VA will help you ? At the time, he wasnt observing the Nazarite vow like he is today; he just knew he wanted to be a soldier. The already-growing list of religious exemption requests inflated earlier this year when Spc. For someone who doesn't use their name, I find it a bit telling that instead of trying to make your point first, you needed to try to come up with a put down beforehand. It wasnt a matter of one or the other, so he pushed the issue further. The psychology of having bearded soldiers might only make the defenders of our nation tougher and more rugged, than the clean shaven soldiers of other nations. KEEP VOTING FOR IDIOTS LIKE BIDEN. In the end he has full retirement short of 20 years active because of that break. The new rules permit religious accommodations for beards, but they may not be longer than 2 inches unless rolled or tied up. Air Force allows Sikh airman to wear turban and beard while serving The. However, they are specifically required to "dress up their hair and beard properly". Having a beard in the U.S. military can be difficult due to its ban on facial hair while in uniform. And at present there are no government approved gas masks or chemical suits from private makers. These cookies track visitors across websites and collect information to provide customized ads. After that women wanting to wear dresses instead of the standard uniform. Requiring the unit commander, base chaplain, installation commander up to the Air Force Deputy Chief of Staff, Personnel Division, to all sign off on the beard waiver. Both are highly justifiable, but if a white man's issues are going to be more important than the uncomfortable problem black men have, then NEITHER should be approved. I served as aan Air Force med tex fr 3yrs 4monthe 25days 6bhougrsqd 30 minutes x r p ok roximxately,.. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Performance". Jesus has never been depicted as clean shaven. Im glad Im out of the military as I cannot stand to see one of the mightiest nations brought to surrender by idiocy and defamatory measures taken by the likes of yourself! Bring it back , now. Check this out!!!! What do you think? These new children going into the military today are more than likely being sent right back home. Maybe there are too bulky for a soldier to carry. If a sailor is retired, what right does the navy have to bitch at him because of his beard ? Abdul Rahman Gaitan became the first Muslim airman to be granted the exemption in observance of the tenets of his faith. He is believed to be the first turbaned Sikh to receive such an accommodation, though his lawyers have criticized the strict standards put in place by the Marine Corps. Heres why they shouldnt be. Get off his back about his beard. The military has granted a few troops the ability to keep their facial hair in accordance with their religious beliefs. Same with firefighters. Your email address will not be published. A soldier wanting such things, or wanting at all is to me a reason to put a bullet in the head of the unruly and dangerous element in a unit that must be devoid of all individuality. I returned all equipment s that he used like bed, ,,, cane,,wheelchairr( manual/ motorized))) etc to VA. . "A religious practice may be an action, behavior, or course of conduct constituting an individual expression of religious beliefs, regardless of whether the practice is compelled by, or central. This new generation needs some goals and self-discipline. It would surely make the lives of religious people a lot easier. Additionally, the mustache will not go beyond a horizontal line extending across the corners of the mouth and no more than 1/4 inch beyond a vertical line drawn from the corner of the mouth.. DiPietro is one of the first known U.S. service members to receive a religious exemption from hair standards due to their Christian faith, although in recent years the various service branches. But on the same note when you put on any military uniform you are representing the military regardless! BUT YOU DONT AND THEY DONT CARE AT THE COST! He asked chaplains he knew who worked in the Pentagon if they knew anyone who might be able to do something, to help him move his request forward. I have one. Sgt. Religious minorities need not be placed in a position of choosing between their faith and public service. I found it easier not to have a mustache! But the ability to grow it out far enough to stop the bumps. I know theres some right here in these comments. In some circumstances though, it can be best to keep it to ourselves. We know, that enemy snipers, and those who fire mortars, wont ever shoot at a medic. O.K. LOL! Clean shaven men must have started with someone who had a distorted view of reality. Whats next? You know what is required, if you can't do what is required, then you shouldn't be there, I don't care what color you! Should the military allow religious soldiers the unique privilege of keeping a beard? Get the latest in military news, entertainment and gear in your inbox daily. Change is sometimes difficult for anyone who is kind of set in their ways. Hoppers exemption is the latest example of the militarys effort most notably the U.S. Army and U.S. Air Force to acknowledge the diverse religious practices represented in its ranks. Firefighters go through the same thing with their masks. The face needs to be clean shaven so that the mask can make an air-tight seal and prevent smoke, dust, poison gas and radioactive particles from being inhaled. Maybe they don't meet minimum standards for protection. Really? I feel like theres still a culture that is, truthfully, fearful and hating towards that which is different., As for other soldiers who are serious about their religious obligations but are scared to ask for an exception to policy, DiPietro urged them to do their research beforehand. I have absolutely no qualms with soldiers growing beards. I served 21 years of continus service , but 21 is 21 !!. I dont agree with most of the comments. Your DNA will show you are either a male or female! Facial hair did not make or break the military and never will. I am Army HR and even our civilian guards per regulation ca I mean hell, since before I started school, my nickname was, and still is Mink or Minky. Sikhs are allowed to wear beards and turbans because it actually is a religious requirement of their faith that they do so. In 2018, The United States military updated its restrictions to accommodate soldiers who follow religious doctrinal guidelines on dress and grooming. If the beard is trimmed neat n clean whats the problem, its guys like you that keep young men from wanting to serve. (Photo via Sgt. "Sikhs are allowed to wear beards and turbans because it actually is a religious requirement of their faith. Almost two years after making his first request for a religious accommodation to grow his hair and beard out while in uniform, an Army sergeant has officially receivedthe green light. Most older soldiers think like that because thats what they know and respect. Thumbs up to our Chefs, First Shirts and brave young officers for making this happen. Leandros Katsareas, a Petty Officer 3rd Class, was granted an exemption last year to wear a four-inch beard but was informed this year the exemption could be revoked. In short, it is honoring the pillars of heathenism, our ancestors and ancient gods and way of life.. I am not gay or whatsoever. Thanks for giving me a Vietnam Vet something to think about. Meanwhile, while STILL on active duty, black soldiers with that issue should be given the same consideration and respect as white soldiers to grow a beard without penalties and discrimination. Requests for waivers regarding grooming go all the way up to the Secretary level for approval. Rutner said DiPietros request to wear a beard and uncut hair was being approved and noted that there was no specific hazard identified by allowing it. If so, should the military allow all soldiers to keep beards, regardless of religious affiliation? So while they cant stop you from wearing a beard or hair buns, they can refuse to deploy you and if you cant be deployed, then your military career is over. This is important because, in an emergency, if you grab a gas mask, there is no guarantee it is going to fit. The soldiers brigade-level commander will approve a request for a religious accommodation unless the commander determines the request is not based on a sincerely held religious belief, or identifies a specific, concrete hazard that is not specifically addressed in this directive and that cannot be mitigated by reasonable measures, Secretary of the Army Eric Fanning said at the time. We don't even elect generals as presidents anymore. Went to jump school, then off to Special Forces training and became a Green Beret in 67. Militaries around the world have varying policies . For you facial hair obsessed supposed professionals you are entirely missing the real issues. The request came after policy changes in 2017 that allow a soldier's brigade-level commander to approve a request to receive religious exemptions to grow out their hair. "There is no religious requirement for beards in Heathenry," the post read. DiPietro remembered thinking how he expected it to be more difficult to get approval. I THOUGHT IT DIDNT MATTER!!!! For decades, U.S. military leaders have prohibited service members from growing beards, arguing that facial hair not only disrupts a clean, professional appearance, but also interferes with the. forgot The Army earlier this year approved religious accommodations for Sikh soldiers to maintain their beards and turbans. If your religion requires you to dress in a manor that restricts your ability to do a particular job or work on certain days, etc. He said he researched for six months because he knew if he was wrong on anything, down to the periods at the ends of the sentences, the Army was going to use that as a reason to deny my request. He finally spoke to his unit chaplain about his decision in November 2019. clean, and can interfere with gas masks if needed. You want to practice your religion fine but you should receive no consideration in the workplace. https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2017/01/05/new-army-policy-oks-soldiers-to-wear-hijabs-turbans-and-religious-beards/, Copyright 2019 document.write(new Date().getFullYear()); Forn Sidr of America | All Rights Reserved |Privacy Policy, Religious Beard Accommodations in the US Military, Call to Action: Protect Religious Freedom, Official Statement Re: Trademark challenge of Forn Sidr for commercial use, Q & A Interview with Gudellri Alexandra Ravenscroft, Official Statement: Reproductive Rights and Roe v Wade. What I do find completely offensive is that this soldiers defense of growing a beard is to claim taking a vow before God and providing no evidence that they are fulfilling all the requirements of that vow. Does a mustache or hair make me a better soldier, no, but would help the morale in the services! They're all a bunch of loudmouth, sissified politicians, who would cry bloody murder if they cut themselves shaving. You also have the option to opt-out of these cookies. He joined the Army the same day he turned 18 years old in 2010, about seven years before the service allowed religious exemptions. He married a woman hed been dating for years, but when she was pregnant with their first child, she left. KEEP VOTING FOR IDIOTS LIKE BIDEN. The Open Halls Project, an advocacy group for heathens serving in the military, sought to clarify any existing confusion in a 2017 post about beard exemptions. Do we want pretty boys defending us, or manly looking men. I used to shave with cold water in my pot (helmet liner) in the field with a Should Christian Postal Workers Be Required to Deliver on Sundays? His unit contacted him and asked if he wanted to press the issue further, but it wasnt a matter of if for DiPietro. Equal opportunity training must also be done face to face, but now yearly as opposed to quarterly. REALLY!!!!. Islam & The First Religious Beard in The US Military (Air Force) The military first banned beards during World War I, as beards greatly increased the risk that soldiers wouldnt be able to put on their life-saving gas masks during a chemical attack. The flaw in that thinking is that when you do something to endanger yourself, you endanger those around you, especially in firefighting and combat. I assisted in some of the basic research into PEEP AND CPAP, EVEN COCUTHOREDB A PAPER PUBLISHED IN THE JOURNAL OF CRITICAL CARE MEDICINE. I DESIGNED AND BUILT PULMONARY FUNCTION UNITS AT A COUPLE OF HOSPITALS, Thanks Jay. It won't take up much room in their fifty pound backpacks. In Old Norse practice, having a beard isnt exactly a requirement, but rather a beloved tradition. My husband did the same thing but where it kept messing him up was time in service as when you were out it was considered active reserve which goes to time served. Amy Minckler made the comment that as long as it doesn't endanger anyone but themselves, they should be allowed to have facial hair. Religions That Allow Beards In The Military. If the Biden Clown Circus has its way the military branches just might be required to have 51% female composition and would exclude males from enlisting until that goal is met. If you spouse was a 100% disabled Veteran and past away then the surviving spouse should get half of his disability plus medical coverage under ChampVA. The answer came just days later. Exactly what i was going to post. As Carl pointed out, there are many non-combat positions, and I, foolishly it seems, believed that would go without saying. The Pentagon has allowed military personnel to request religious accommodation to uniforms under the Religious Freedom Restoration Act since 2014. NOW HAVE A GOOD DAY, AND WIPE UP YOUR TEARS BABY! For the first time, the Army will allow a Christian soldier to break their long-standing dress code and grooming standards and grow facial hair while serving. Gen. Stephen Rutner, commander of the Army Reserve deployment support command. Out of these, the cookies that are categorized as necessary are stored on your browser as they are essential for the working of basic functionalities of the website. There is no more pride of country, Reimplementing the draft is long overdue. Today the Navy uses positive-pressure gas masks. There are many religions that allow beards in the military. They are required to keep it neatly tied in a hairnet or keep it trimmed. John Hoskins applied for a beard exemption as part of his proclaimed devotion to the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster a faith also known as Pastafarianism., This request is based on my deeply and sincerely held belief in the Pastafarian faith, Hoskins wrote in his request to the Army. Oh well, I guess people will pick and choose to suit what they like to justify their worldly desires. I seriously doubt they have a Walmart in the middle of the jungle to pick up that lice cream. he cannot be deployed if the safety equipment he may need cannot be safely used. Uriah Walker/Army). Within two days of the Army's rollout of new hair and grooming standards primarily for female soldiers, a petition calling for the service to allow male soldiers to grow beards has gotten more . Among the virtues beautifully etched in stained-glass in the Australian War Memorial's Tomb of the Unknown Soldier are courage, loyalty, patriotism, common sense, and highest of all self . Joined before the draft got me, decided I wanted to be the best. But after years of the request being stuck in limbo, the Army found the request was made in good faith and on a sincerely held religious belief. The lieutenant would be allowed to wear a beard and turban whenever he wanted, as long as it was not while he was deployed, serving in a combat unit that might deploy, or performing ceremonial .
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