i think ill try and persuade my dad to rewire it for me. I've had Kent Armstrong pick-ups in my sheraton for about 15 years. You can email the site owner to let them know you were blocked. Mike, Any experience with this one? http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Electronics,_pickups/Pickups:_Guitar,_archtop/Kent_Armstrong_Suspended_Jazz_Humbuck For such high output pups, they sure preserve a lot of the guitar's acoustic tone. I don't think they're anywhere near the Rolphs but I can't be arsed to swap them between guitars to do a real comparo. The Kent Armstrong Humbucker on the Eastman AR371ce measured about 8.7K Ohms at the output jack. I've only tried his Firebird pickups & thought that, even though they seem like quality product, tonally they were very "polite" & lacking any personalityflat & not in a good way. The variability might have worked in your favor. The copper wire coil is now wound around a custom-sized plastic bobbin that features an Alnico bar magnet right down the center. anyhow, i've had 2 or 3 of those on guitars i've owned and they are thin and overly bright. i wanted to have it rewired so it worked like a normal les paul but i could use the middle pickup on a push pull but i got told it would cost quite alot to do it. He'll also custom wind you anything you want if you call him. Does anybody really play bebop these days? The "Hot Rod" bridge pickup was a fattened up PAF sound, similar to a Burstbucker but with warm thick mid's and highs without being harsh. FWIW, the markings on the bottom of the original P-90's say Epiphone (engraved in the bottom plate) with a sticker on each that says either neck BHK or Bridge BHK for the respective pickup. But part of that is the guitar. The pickups are priced nicely as well. Dan and Kent planned to reproduce the pickups that Dan and Bill Lawrence made for the famed see-through acrylic "Dan Armstrong" guitar, sold by Ampeg. The cheaper type are made in the far-east while the more expensive ones are USA made. WebReviews Kent Armstrong Vintage Series 6 Shooter PAF Style Humbucker Pickup This pickup design has sweet, soulful tones with a warm bass, punchy mids, and a bright, jangly treble response. These pickups still deliver the same tone but are much more reliable and easier to manufacture. The tone is bright and detailed with a single coil type twang that also provides great crunch on You must log in or register to reply here. All I know is WD sells Kent Armstrong pups at higher end pricing with no sound clips or specs. I've been using Kent's m214 - m215 pair of humbuckers as well as the wpu10 - wpu11 for over 14 years now in nearly every custom that I have built because they blow away Seymour Duncan's Mayhem set and you can't beat the price nearly half as much. KA's are available in double creme though and come standard with 4 wires if you're into coil tapping and in the UK they're extremely cheap and I think quite a bargain. Click to reveal Players love how they teeter between tone and chaos. I played classic / rock / blues at the time and got several compliments on my sound after gigs. You may have to register They have a nice full tone not thin and bright like most pickups in this output range. I once had occasion to call Mr Armstrong in Vermont and found him to be absolutely accommodating and quite a delightful person. Announcing the all new Side mounted Jazz Pickup. has body but the upper frequency contour is really interesting. link above. I've known that these two types of pick-up magnets existed for a while now, what is the difference between them and what are the tonal characteristics of each? Maybe more like a Ford fusion, then say a Holdworth type thing. I have mentioned in previous posts that my tech had claimed that the stock P90 pups in my '56 Gold Top Les Paul and Zephyr Blues Deluxe (see my sig.) I also suggest that you choose your priority for heat level. the lp studio has the vintage 12 pole humbuck at the bridge, and that's a keeper, too. They cost around 40 give-or-take here (Seymour Duncan and What I did not know was the extent of the Kent Armstrong catalog. Santa Barbara, California. There was a Kent Armstrong humbucker of some sort in the bridge position of my US Masters when I got it. I thought it sounded terrible. Really thin www.wdmusic.com is the us distributor. Lipstick wiring is also a contributor. Nice wire, nice waxed string cover on the coil, nice box, good screws and springs. these prices are pretty reasonable i think. If yours sound like P-90's should sound OR you are happy with them, then don't even think about replacing them. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. This pickup is only 3/8 thick but sacrifices nothing in terms of If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. the only ones I didn't like were the stacked humbuck hot output.. way too dark for my taste. also with respect, I could not agree less. Cookie information is stored in your browser and performs functions such as recognising you when you return to our website and helping our team to understand which sections of the website you find most interesting and useful. Matthew Bellamy of Muse used the "Motherbucker" In his first few custom guitars. Amazing humility saying built and repaired pickups for 50 years when he is the guy personally hand making the pickups for the amazing Ken Smith basses. do The neck model was built Reverse Wound / Reverse Polarity from the bridge model for hum-canceling operation when using both pickups. If I was having another Sei or similar built I'd have KAs in it. WebKent Armstrong has long been the best jazz pickup designer in the industry. (and Szab (or Szabo) and not Sczabo or Szarb for God's sake). Vermont-wound pickups from Mr. Armstrong and his son are still within easy reach. Some others seemed to like them though. i think ill go for them. I'm not sure how their other pickups are. One retailer mentions that Kent Armstrong's pickups with adjustable poles can be adjusted to work with either nickel or bronze strings, a claim that doesn't appear to originate with the manufacturer. In my case, a 30 minute job involving a certain amount of swearing. I had a 12 polepiece nickel covered Kent Armstrong in the neck position of a double humbucker Tele for a while, and it was a very sweet sounding humbucker. Rewiring to 1 master vol plus a specific vol for middle pup should be quite cheap; it doesn't need any new / different components. I just purchased an El Rey4 and I find the original pickup kind of listless. sorry, didnt mean to digress from the original topic. check out the FAQ by clicking the The extended cover allows for use with traditional 7 string arch-top electrics. Danelectros had a unique sound that no other guitar could capture. I think it could do the whole fusion thing, but I have not really ran it like that. They are some of the cleanest pickups I have played. Epoxy casting inside the cover allows for added coil to give a sweet mini-humbucker tone. Display as a link instead, The Gear Page is the leading online community and marketplace for guitars, amps, pedals, effects and associated gear. They also make a set of Rory Gallagher pickups that were made to replicate the original Rory pickups provided by his estate. Does anyone know if the Kent Armstrong pickups that "W D Music" sells are the real deal or - are they the Licensed pickups? 500k pots are good with P90's if the pickup resonance is in a good range. In the 1940s, Nathan Daniel found success with his budget line of electric instrument amplifiers, Silvertone and Danelectro. Hijacking my own thread:doh: Instead, jazz players often focus on tonal purity Great price. dude i love that guitar! I love the look of 3 humbuckers, but the extra one does little sonically. Well, this time he has outdone himself. SnoMan97December 17, 2008 in Electric Guitars. The, not so good, PUs may be great to other folks. Note: This instrument has been modified from it's original condition. Learning Jazz Improvisation - "Imitate, Assimilate, Innovate". Inside the pickup, the improvements continue. I contacted Kent Armstrong himself about the pickup thinking maybe I'd just have him make me new one and here was his The words Fender, Telecaster, Stratocaster and the associated headstock designs are registered trademarks of the Fender Musical Instruments Corporation. Yup - I can stare at the screen for ages when you and Presa Tito are posting on a thread. I believe he still does hand winds to order in the states. By contrast, the Armstrong (VT-made) PAF 12-pole humbucker has a much fatter, more electric sound. Well, now he has outdone himself. For me, the tone is wayyy too bright, and it seems like the top 80% of the tone wheel is all the same (this could actually be a wiring issue, I have to have it inspected). Tech experts from Seymour Duncan are regularly on this forum, and are clearly labeled as employees of Seymour Duncan. They weren't very good. Fender has even offered several lipstick-equipped Strats right from the factory floor. It had a nice tone, good Kent Armstrong sells his pickups exclusively through WDmusic. 1995-2022 Harmony Central, Inc. All rights reserved. I would be interested in you comments about the Benedetto swap. 1995-2022 Harmony Central, Inc. All rights reserved. If you go here' date='. So those VT hand-wound, 12 pole HB'show much does something like that run? are actually Asian-produced "Rainbow" pickups by Kent Armstrong. Don't know for sure. I don't need to read posts like this, Greg! The pickups are hot a great pairing with my Engal Powerball, Mesa Roadking and Carvin V3 all modern high gain amps. I just ordered some Burstbuckers (#2, #3) on the strength of recommendations on this forum. There was a Kent Armstrong humbucker of some sort in the bridge position of my US Masters when I got it. One look at them, and its easy to see why they quickly took the name lipstick pickups. I put Kent Armstrongs in my much-reviled epiphone LP about a year ago and found them to be a good pickup and much improved over the stockers (obviously). It may not display this or other websites correctly. His pickups are really, really nice. I have one of his "hot-rails" type tele bridge pickups in my thinline and that is an amazing sounding pickup, not to mention the nicest made pickup of this type that I have seen from ANYONE (it even has a chrome plated grounding plate on the base), and that is one of his "mass-produced" pickups. EDIT: forgot to mention, I'm especially interested coz I have a G-400 Custom which has 3 buckers also, and I have an active picup git, an Ultra-II with NanoMag, it can make some half decent tones. ive noticed that about my guitar that the middle doesnt really do much. depends on the sound you want of course - they ARE at least as good as the Gibson Johnny Smith mini humbuckers that came on some of the older Gibbies and Heritage archtops, but well Also, the lack of adjustable poles is a turn off for me, YMMV, but I will say the best "smooth top" floating jazz pickup I've owned is the Bartolini 5J pickup, which is an excellent choice for that thinner, more acoustic sound. i dont know anything about those models mentioned, but just a word of props for Kent Armstrong, he is a super nice guy and makes a quality product. Most of the time I played with the middle one set to zero volume. The customer changed his mind and went with a Different Armstrong. They can be a little bit of figuring to roll off and clean up but once you find the sweet spot your good to go and you can't expect pristine creamy cleans from pickups of this output. Not horrified, but bowled over with mediocrity. Judging by their use on low-end guitars I assume they're cheaper to make. Virtually no one knows about the high end products. There was a set in a D'Angelico I just traded. I have no experience of his full size humbuckers but have always thought his fender singles were real good and a lot of people speak very highly of his P90s. Let me continue to believe that my stock Casino pickups are as good as any others because when I read opinions like yours I once again go to this page, http://www.pinupmusicparts.com/Pickups-Kent_Armstrong_P90_Famil.html. To answer that question, well have to dig into their history, lipstick pickup construction, and their relationship to Danelectro guitars. Very warm sound. Since I wrote that post I did some trawling and found some good references, also got on the humbucker page at GFS and copy/paste all the specs on the ones I'll get next windfall. However, there are some people who want even more flexibility in this style of pickup, so Kent has brewed up something new and even more versatile. Finally, modern lipstick single-coil pickups offer a variety of wiring improvements. May 20, 2009 in Epiphone Electrics. well ive got a korean made epi which im guessing is about 93 95ish so would and upgrade to kent armstrongs be a good idea? This instrument is listed as being in 'very good' condition in accordance with Reverb's definition of the term. http://www.wdmusic.co.uk/product/PAF_Style_Chrome_Cover_HPAC-1, http://www.wdmusic.co.uk/product/Rocker_Alnico_Humbucker_Chrome_Cover_HRC-1A. If you have any other questions about lipstick pickups, lipstick pickup construction, or lipstick wiring, dont hesitate to get in touch! I'll hafta get some of Telenators PT-90's. Your previous content has been restored. Neck postion, this KA pup : http://www.wdmusic.co.uk/product/PAF_Style_Chrome_Cover_HPAC-1, 2. Thanks to their popularity, finding vintage, original lipstick pickups is next to impossible. Performance & security by Cloudflare. Pasted as rich text. Among its other design factors, Danelectros magic can be traced straight to the highly unique pickups that Nathan Daniel designed. he is quite the crackuphe was full of quips and one liners - it was an entertaining conversation. He is a very good friend and a good guy also. Any users out there? I have another Tele with an SD AlNiCo II pickup that I prefer over the Kent Armstrong. And Strat Players like SRV retrofitted lipsticks into their Fenders years ago. He made pickups for many UK builders (not to mention Benedetto (sp?) Specifically designed for use with traditional arch-top electrics. We understand the questions. This pickup is only 3/8 thick but sacrifices nothing in terms of the full rich sound that players have come to expect from him. It was definitely an improvement over the stock pickup, which itself was not a bad pickup. I have spoken to him many times on the phone. Alnico 3 with Formvar wire. Were asked everything from what they sound like to Will they fit in my guitar? and more. It really brightened the sound but the guitar needed that. P90's are normally ~8H -- nearly double the inductance of an average PAF. But not everyone. We are not able to accommodate order changes or cancellations once you have completed the check out process. This explains why I wasnt as concerned with the Epiphones tone. I replaced it with a Dimarzio Tone Zone and have been happy as can be since. And if you do find them, youre going to pay a premium. Kent then went on to make his own pickups using the name 'Rainbow Pickups' and once his name was more established, he changed it to Kent Armstrong Pickups. Hi, I don't have a personnal experience with the Armstrong Casino P90s, but I've had other KA pickups (a Firebird mini hum and lipstick pickps) and they were quite good. The fit and finish of the year 2000 Fender American Standard Strat are excellent. Both these Kent Armstrong made in the USA pickups are far superior to what Eastman is selling on most of their guitars. A good friend of mine (Roy) had a guitar built for him, to his own personal design and specification, by his good friend the one and only Sid Poole (who made the most finely built electric guitars on the planet before his recent death - even Paul Reed Smith himself is agreed on this, and even here we all accept the quality of PRS constructions and finishes). WebKent Armstrong Hand Made Johnny Smith floating Pickup. Some are excellent, some not so great, but of course that's a matter of taste. Not a new arguement but an interesting take. It's like an on-board pre-amp boosting and distorting the signal. Talk with your fellow tone freaks on the web's liveliest (and friendliest!) For a while you could still get domestic KA pickups built custom direct by him and/or his sons - not sure if that is possible still today or if it is all via WD Music. Really thin and very harsh. Along with Dire Straits Mark Knopfler, Page also found his Dano perfect for electrified blues slide. They make the Mexi Standard that I've had since 1998 sound so good I play it as first choice on a lot of gigs now. Playing them clean in a tube amp.best tone I've ever heard. But he is the ideal example of repetitiveness, and also extreme rythmic monotonity, which is interesting to Good info, I kinda want to check out a newer one from the custom shop. I have three MB-3 pickups to rewind. This wiring results in an output boost with a woolier midrange punch than you might expect from lipsticks. It is the bridge model of the 4/5 string soapbar. im looking to a bluesy peter greeny kind of tone. More than likely, the pickups are worth way more than the rest of the guitar anyway. Bridge position a hotter KA like : http://www.wdmusic.co.uk/product/Rocker_Alnico_Humbucker_Chrome_Cover_HRC-1A. Up solos the neck pickup. But the name is much more accurate than many players realize. I got the cheap ones (I was only 18 at the time) and was very pleased. been to his house and talked to him many times. S. Thank you for the awesome information in this thread to those who have posted. You cannot paste images directly. The action you just performed triggered the security solution. He has standard formulas,as well as winding to your spec.The cost for these is below the bareknuckles and comparable to the Dunkmores.I use Kent's pickups in just about all my guitars with great results.Of course I make sure of the specs of the model to best match it to the particular guitar and it's intended purpose.I also adjust the overall height and individual polepieces (if used). That bridge pup with full treble and plenty of gain on the amp gets you a nice biting tone like Claptons' John Mayall period. Using the middle pup with either gives you something inbetween which I didn't like much. The reason I asked here is I know I'll get good info I can trust, you go through a lot of chaff before you find something really useful trawling. Like FilterTrons to Gretsch, PAFs to Gibson, and Strat single-coils to Fender, they essentially define the soul of the brand. So while many ended up collecting dust in basements, others found themselves on the worlds biggest stages and recording timeless rock n roll. I'm really shocked at reading this thread as I have bought 2 guitars that have had KA pups (mini hum and hums) and in both cases these guitars were totally liberated by replacing themI replaced the KA mini humbucker with a Duncan SM-3 mini and the humbuckers with a Duncan JB and a Bare knuckle Stormy Monday. the upgrade turned both guitars from potential ebay items into favourites.go figure!? And like the Rhoads fan mentioned above, the split tones are excellent, and not that weak-ass puss-o-matic tone which is the usual result of split coils. My Epi originals had a passive resistance of about 14.5K Ohms!!!!! They are built/distributed by WD Music, which is a great company that is very helpful to smaller custom pickup builders with a wide range of pickup parts available for purchase. I used the vintage in the neck and the HPAOR1 in the bridge. There is a chance that you might have gotten a "good" set of P90's as stock equipment on your Epi. I e-mailed about a possible custom wind and Kent himself replied quickly that he'd be happy to do one. Maybe a medium output but with nice growl. On 28/02/2021 at 14:34, Tvrtastic said: Kent Armstrong has posted a little clip about his life. This company advertises that they have the hand wound Kent Armstrongs: http://www.oneflightupguitars.com/kentarmstrong.html. I had an old discontinued KA Tele neck pick that sounded great in one guitar, but just so so in another, so I put it back in that one it sounded good in, and sold the guitar. A no brainer is if price is an issue and you're only playing jazz on this ax, you only need to replace the neck pickup. This website is using a security service to protect itself from online attacks. You won't find the distortion on the WD website though. [/quote] Thanks. They also split for single coil use better than any other humbucker I've tried. Sunny Coalville. To start viewing messages, IMHO, for a Casino a good set is about 7.5k/8k for the bridge and 6.5k/7k for the neck pickup. They sound very authentic for P90's and when used in Parallel, they move into Tele territory for tone. Again, it took me by surprise about the sheer number of pickups they produce. ive seen a few for sale and was hoping u could tell me a bit about their sounds and what I mixed and matched and put his 54 neck and 57 middle with a 62 in the bridge to slightly increase output and fatten up tone. WebThese pickups are handwound in the USA by Kent Armstrong and retail for $160 new, not the import version. Powered by Invision Community. 67 AB165 BF Bassman "restoration" complete. Ceramic tend to have a "thinner" sound, but powerful ceramics give good metal tones when over-driven. This pickup is only 3/8 thick but sacrifices nothing in terms of the full rich sound that players have come to expect from him. These are the Kent Armstrong pickups in my Soloist: The bridge pickup has a bright fendery tone, for a humbucker it. JavaScript is disabled. What would you guys recommend fro the bridge of a Les Paul if I want deep bass, solid mids, and sweet(smooth) highs. This is probably a dumb question to a lot of you but I'm still relatively virginal guitar-wise. But the in-between setting runs both pickups in series wiring. The PAF is OK but the Distortion kicks but. I wanted to have some time with the guitar before I went with the swap but at the next string change, I'll change out the pickup. JavaScript is disabled. Sam Sherry, Thanks for your response. I have to admit I have only seen and heard the import stuff from Kent Armstrong. I imagine earlier pre WD Armstrong pickups would hold quite a bit of value. It's just magnets and wire at the end of the day. Kent Armstrong humbucker removed from When searching for the right single-coils for his guitars, Daniel knew they would have to be easy and inexpensive to manufacture. You can post now and register later. This website uses cookies so that we can provide you with the best user experience possible. Hot is darker After listening to Mark Whitfield's videos I thought his playing was excellent, however the Soho's tone was very bright and plinkyto me. Well by looking at the list of players that he's made pickups for, he should be **** good. By They are here to help. I currently have one of their mini-humbuckers in the neck of my Tele. select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. What's the opinion from those Daniel found he could source lipstick tubes from wholesalers for much less than standard pickup covers. A Smooth Sam pickup will breathe depth and articulation back into your favorite archtop guitar and make you fall in love all over again. He learned to wind pickups from his father and Bill Lawrence. I put a set of noisless Kent Armstrong P90's in a PRS SE Soapbar 2 - I also wired them Series or Parallel. Just an opinion but the early ones are great. Also what is the difference between active and passive pickups? But the in-between Kent is Dan Armstrongs (of ampeg plexiglass etc. For the past 25ish years he was THE top pickup rewind guy in the UK and only recently relocated back to the states (his pickup rewind business here continues to operate in his absence). Matthew Bellamy of Muse used the "Motherbucker" In his first few custom guitars. Just youtube "Stockholm Sydrome Glastonbury" You'll get the idea, It may have just been whatever model I had that I didn't like. I tell every one of my customers to give them a try if they are looking for high gain, and let them all know I will gladly replace them with something of their choosing and not one have come back looking for replacements in over 14 years. That said, other Korean Kent Armstrong pickups I tried sounded very good as well, so I would not hesitate trying them. From years of modifying and designing special recipes for his customers, Kent Happy hunting! I had a KA Hot 60s Tele Neck pup in a project that I did few years ago, sounded awesome. Never worry about fitting a pickup under the strings again! I may be wrong, but i think that is one of the overseas "licensed" pickups, not handmade in Vermont. All times are GMT-7. This pickup has the deadly combination of power and tone! VPB Hot Rod Series Hot Twins Split Pickup For Fender Precision Bass I got the cheap ones (I was only 18 at the time) and was very pleased. So if you are in the market for these old-school models, we recommend finding a broken-down Dano from the 50s or 60s and pulling the pickups out yourself. Mar 9, 2015 #6 I'd like to try one. That's the only first hand experience I have with Kent Armstrong pickups. I wandered over to the Kent Armstrong website earlier. Kiesel Guitars: Allan Holdsworth Signature. The vintage is real nice - sweet and full. I always wanted to get a third pickup (the Armstrong Rock Treble, or something like that) for the guitar, but haven't done so yet. thanks for your help. You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly. The magic is in your fingers. Was put on a customers guitar and modified to fit a D'Aquisto see offset bracket in picture. 62.133.128.109 I can't remember what the model on it was, but I do remember trying to find it and it was discontinued. Has an output of 8.14 k. From the well setup action and the finely-cut nut, to the smooth polyurethane There are 2 different types of Kent Armstrongs. humbuck size p90s.. and the vintage 12 pole humbuck. The PAF and bridge humbucker in my Jackson Soloist are excellent pickups. When I first got the guitar my standard procedure was to swap things for LOL. Just depends what tones you're after; whatever you choose, you'll probably end up buying pedals to make it sound more like one of the others. You are using an out of date browser. So now I use the Gretsch when I know an amp is going to be needed and my Heritage 575 is too modern soundingah the choices I get to make. They were OEM pickups pulled from some Jazz guitars. Posted March 1, 2021. The cheaper type are made in the far-east while the more expensive ones are USA made. Armstrong or Rautia pickups are a much better way to go. Between the warmth and adjustability, you just can't beat this pickup. Today, lipstick pickups and their tone are still synonymous with the Danelectro sound. You must log in or register to reply here. Kent goes on to describe "It just didn't seem right to me. I like a pickup that is able to produce the true "natural" acoustic tone when it's fully on, but can go completely dark and everywhere in between. Terms & Conditions | Registered Trademarks, There are 2 different types of Kent Armstrongs. Specifically the tele bridge and the neck mini humbucker pickups. I didn't like the Duncan I had in the bridge though and opted for a GFS Vintage Alnico Tele and was actually super impressed by it. It is true he never runs out of notes. I wasn't a huge fan of the noiseless P90's I briefly hadthere was a big volume imbalance. Strictly Necessary Cookie should be enabled at all times so that we can save your preferences for cookie settings. They certainly suit me, although YMMV. Well, this time he has outdone himself. I'd go for that configuration again if I had a 3 humbucker guitar. After I wax potted them they weren't too bad. They're were custom wound and came with the guitar. He was jamming on it while I was in the store which is what caught my attention. I know for a while you could still get domestic KA pickups built custom direct by him and/or his sons - not sure if that is possible still today or if it is all via WD Music. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. This sweet sounding jazz pickup comes in either neck-mount or side-mount configurations. i was looking at the seymour duncan ones but i think there a bit expensive because ill need 3 of them. Jangly, chiming, clear, and detailed are often used to describe their singular voice. Are all of his current pickups made over seas? I have a KA 12 pole humbucker packed away somewhere that I had in the bridge position of a Tele I sold, not sure if it's a US, and remember that it sounded really good and was good enough that I made sure to remove it before selling the Tele. i dont know anything about those models mentioned, but just a word of props for Kent Armstrong, he is a super nice guy and makes a quality product. Even with a dynacomp switched on! TDPRI, short for Telecaster Discussion Page Reissue, is the leading online community and marketplace for Telecaster guitars. Also, dont forget to dig into the rest of the Seymour Duncan blog. That neck pup on its' own with a little treble rolled off on the tone control would give you a warm mellow full sound, especially if you pick at the bottom of the neck. They offer authentic PAF tone, sounding open and warm while retaining excellent string to string articulation.
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